Vixen's Re-Application AND Apology.

Okay, First of all, i would like to apologize to everyone who my have been offended with my whole ordeal of applying for 2 places at once, I'm sorry for doing so, i now see why it was a bad move.


GW name: The Enchanted Vixen

Age (optional, at least say above/below 16): 16
Nationality: England
Gender: Male

Time Zone(try to tell it in GMT): GMT

Playing role (pve, pvp, pve/pvp): PvE, only PvP i do is Alliance Battles really, i have tried TA/RA, but it never seems to go quite so well. ^^

Character (lvl, profession):
I mainly play my Monk but however sometimes if i feel like a change of pace, i play my other characters, such as my dervish or ritualist.

Hours in GW(type /age in game to see it - months + hours of whole account!):
2,315 Hours over 20 months (Including a 4 month break i took a while back.)

Your previous guild(s):
My previous guild was SNOW. but i came to realise that there were no where near enough events going on, i mean dont get me wrong, i love to vanquish, but i also enjoy the odd FoW/UW/DoA runs every once in a while, something i can really dig my teeth into.

Number of maxed titles on main character:
My Monk currently has 7 maxed titles, so i am always up for group related titles, such as vanuishing, HM EotN (yep, still need all those rep titles and LmotN:))

How/Where did you find out about GoDT? A Friend of mine, and an ex-guildie, White Monky Miss, i really bacame interested when i was invited to do bogroot HM with her, and the response from the guild/alliance amazed me, as SNOW would struggle to get so many so fast, so that made me very interested and became apparant to me that GoDT is a friendly and very active guild.

What do you expect from us?
Activities, HM, VQ, Elite areas, anything fun really, even helping others with titles i already have ^^

Why are you applying?
Well, it has became apparent to me that for me to enjoy my gaming experience,
i need people to enjoy it with, as heros and henchies lack not only intlligence, but friendliness and company ^^ so I'm looking for a friendly active guild such as yourselves.

Tell us about youself!
Well, recently i started sixth form, so am stomped with homework and coursework, but i still find time to play guildwars for around 2-3 hours a day if i have coursework, and 3-5 if i do not. i enjoy a challenge, helping others, being part of a team, meeting friendly new people, I am currently aiming for LmotN on my Monk, along with a lot of others she hasnt gotten yet ^^ Overall i think i am a nice person, but extremely shy when i first meet people in my experience, well yeah, thats about it, thank you very much for reading, i will be looking forward to your feedback.

Guild Wars guru name(if you have): -

Anything you want to ask about [GoDT]? None, sorry.

well after some serious thoughts..

you're app is pretty decent to me.

it's ok for me, but i can't judge...

Well , if you werent doing that 2 applies thing I would say yes right away , this application seems very impressive.
But the point it is , that I dunno why I should trust you ? Im pretty sure you applied here again since you got rejected by GoE , if they would accept you, you would join them problay , even if both of us say yes.

Just try to convince me please , why should I trust you now?
I cant give a final answer yet , so please answer my question

Blood wrote:

Well , if you werent doing that 2 applies thing I would say yes right away , this application seems very impressive.
But the point it is , that I dunno why I should trust you ? Im pretty sure you applied here again since you got rejected by GoE , if they would accept you, you would join them problay , even if both of us say yes.

Just try to convince me please , why should I trust you now?
I cant give a final answer yet , so please answer my question

must agree on this one.I feel exactly them same tho application seems very good

well, he got rejected at both guilds and only re applied for GoDT

anyway, this apply looks much better than most of applies we have, also there's appology at the top of apply.

Well, i know he made a mistake, but all ppl can make them, even i did many dumb things in past(applied for 2 alliances once ) so yes, i usually am prepared to give ppl 2nd chance as long as they're sorry and appologise for what they've done.

anyway, so far this apply has my support, will w8 for others to say what they think tho.

~Horus

GoE rejected him due to other things , he cant join them anyway.. so Im sure if he could he would join them , but this is off the topic so it shouldnt be discussed, the past is the past, but I still cant say yes to this application.
Its still a no imo , unless he can give me a good reason to accpet him, and saying Im active and join events will be usless to say , so try something else;p

Well, I believe i am a trustworthy person, and i applied here a GoDT first, GoE was simply a back-up plan. This is the guild i believe i would feel right in, and only this guild.

After considering what has happened I would say no , Just saying sorry doesn't change anything and to me it shows a lack of loyalty and respect.

But It's not up to me.

Blood wrote:

and saying Im active and join events will be usless to say , so try something else;p

What else could possibly convince you here? ^^

Is there anything better he can provide to guild?

Well, that's kind of ppl we actually want, active, chatty, forum active and ones that join groups for dungeons etc.

We cant find enough people to join us for events, its not the issue.
Well , im stuck in the middle , I cant say yes , but I think he is worthy , as a player , not sure as a guildie.
so I will let the others decide here ,its 50/50 from me atm.
And if you would get accepted at GoE Im sure you would join there.
Also there is something I cant understand , why would you apply for another guild if we didnt even reject you...?

Blood wrote:

And if you would get accepted at GoE Im sure you would join there.
Also there is something I cant understand , why would you apply for another guild if we didnt even reject you...?

If i get accepted to GoE, i will not just simply hop guilds, as i am not that sort of person, I'm worthy to the guilds i am a part of, and take pride in being a member of such guilds.

As for your question, It was because i didn't know whether you we're going to accept me or not, and i happen to be a tad impatient, and wanted to here if i even had a chance of getting into the alliance, sorry.

The_Enchanted_Vixen wrote:

If i get accepted to GoE, i will not just simply hop guilds, as i am not that sort of person, I'm worthy to the guilds i am a part of, and take pride in being a member of such guilds.

What you did completely contradicts this, If GoE had said yes you would be there right now, that is not loyal at all.

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i will not just simply hop guilds, as i am not
that sort of person, I'm worthy to the guilds i am a part of, and take
pride in being a member of such guilds.

You proved us the total opposite thing.. The thing you did refute what you just said..

/Agree with ben, that's what I was getting at.

I did not think of what i would have done if both accepted me at the time, that was a big mistake on my behalf, and i apoligise for that. i believe i can proove what i just said if given the chance. other than that, how else could i posibly proove it?

You've already sorta proved that you can't keep this promised, to me anyway.

It's just a double application, what's the big deal? People make mistakes, that doesn't mean we shouldn't trust them anymore. If you don't seem thrustworthy we could just kick you.

ok, probably my last post in here:

Vixen made mistake and we all know that, even him. He appologised for what he has done, both here and with PM in game.

I don't know for most of you guys, but for myself i can say i usually can't forget past mistakes when someone is sorry and am willing to give ppl second chance.

About apply, we can say this one was one of the best applies we got so far, and for apply alone there's no reason to reject it.

About GoE: we all know(or at least those who use guru) that GoE is one of the best guilds in game, they don't need to advertise anywhere to get couple of applies daily and in most cases everyone would be more than proud to be part of GoE. GoDT is imo great guild, but not really on GoE's level(it doesn't mean GoDT is bad, but GoE is well established guild with more ppl that have experience with all GW aspects). You can't blame him if he would decide for GoE in case both guilds accepted him - i think most of ppl would do that.

Like i said, ppl can and do make mistakes, in most cases they act "high" and try to make it like it was no biggie or somethibng, but in some cases ppl are sorry. Those deserve second chance imo.

Anyway, applying to 2 guilds at once doesn't make someone unloayl person, if he wasn't in guild yet, there was no loyalty up yet, you only become loyal/not loyal once you are part of guild, so saying he's unloyal because of what happened is unfair.

Also he's pretty much kind of player we're looking for - daily active, willing to join teams and has experience with those runs.

Anyway, my opinion on this whole thing is that apply is great, so it's a yes from me.

enough said from my side, this is democracy(it is the one where ppl decide, right? ), so let ppl decide

~Horus

didnt really care in the first place tbh- gets a yeah from me

I don't mean to be nasty, but it clearly shows on the site's home page that GoE are in the same alliance as us...That's just ridiculous imo. But people seem blinded by experience etc. so this will be probably get accepted.

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You can't blame him if he would decide for GoE in case
both guilds accepted him - i think most of ppl would do that.

True , but still there is no need to apply for both , its a wrong & bad move.

About the trust point , I dont mind giving him a try(yea... Im pretty much convinced^L^ , but the whole thing doesnt look good at all)

Also, since we are an allies of GoE , after the rejected him , and we rejected him , accepting here will look very bad imo, so that leaves me in 50/50 again , I cant say yes and I cant say no \:

Ok, he got rejected by GoE for too few playing hours and the guilds he was on. That wouldn't be a problem with me. The two simultaneous applications in the same alliance? Not a bright idea... but he apologized.
I'd say, lets put him on trial. When other alliance members have a problem with him (due to reject reasons we don't know), I'm not afraid of the kick button.

he get's a yes from me every1 can make misstakes and and looks like's he rly wanna join cuse he is replying alot on this can trying 2 convince benny

I said , give hm a try , I dont mind , I hope the alliance can understand it^^

already in the guild - closed